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Tingi · Feb 09, 2007, 08:02 PM // 20:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Nibiru

haha,elementalist like tanker? you must be joking,and that joke is very stupid.
Ele with 20 less armor then warrior to tank?! please.......think what you are talking......

Point 1 - Learn how to construct a proper sentence.

Point 2 - As Yanman said, you're a pian in the a** in the Assassin section as well

Point 3 - An elementalist can "tank" (bah tanking is dead) much, much better than a warrior can. Warrior SHOULD NOT TANK EVER. (tbh I don't really know about DoA - but then again I don't give a monkeys bollocks about it either as PvE is not my thing.

Point 4 - Tanking is dead. The new AI makes enemies go for...guess who...casters yay! Tanking is stupid. End of. The only "exception" maybe DoA BUT it is probably a long, slow and arduous task. As I've said before, I am no expert at DoA. But I am possitive that Earth elementalists makes better "tanks".

Point 4 - I do not mean to sound offensive, but I want to drill into your skull my points. I hope you can take these on board.

Thomas.knbk · Feb 09, 2007, 08:49 PM // 20:49

Obsidian Flesh
Stoneflesh Aura
Armor of Earth
Kinetic Armor
Stone Daggers
Mystic Regeneration
Earth Attunement
Res Sig

The perfect OF tank

Lord Nibiru · Feb 11, 2007, 10:26 AM // 10:26

Whatever.Every1 have different thinking.
Good build,but only for tanking...damage? I don't see damage.
Like Tan Blademaster said: "tanking is stupid"

Teutonic Paladin · Feb 11, 2007, 06:35 PM // 18:35

As many have said, tanking is virtually worthless in Guild Wars. However, in the elite area Domain of Anguish tanks are still extremely prevalent and incredibly useful for thier ability to body block and pull large groups of absurdly powerful enemies to choke points where they can be nuked. I typically use the following build.

Signet of Stamina
Endure Pain (can be kept up constantly against Margonite mobs)
Obsidian Flesh
Armor of Earth
Stoneflesh Aura
Ward Against Foes
Wary Stance
Glyph of Concentration

The build can be more effective based on area, this is what I use in Ravenheart's Gloom to allow me to block Savage Shot and the effects of Broadhead Arrow. If you become dazed stop casting until it is removed or wears off.

Jesse · Feb 11, 2007, 06:43 PM // 18:43

in the GoA Obsidian Flesh tanks are W/E. Mostly everywere else its an ele.

Shadowfox1125 · Feb 11, 2007, 06:43 PM // 18:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by qvtkc

[skill]Broad Head Arrow[/skill]

Wow.. Broad Head Arrow.. That's so scary..

Just wait for it to go away, or have one of your monks remove the damn thing. And I was referring to the guy's comment on Enchant Removal, which is not possible with Obsidian Flesh on, unless you're hit with Chilblains.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Nibiru

Whatever.Every1 have different thinking.
Good build,but only for tanking...damage? I don't see damage.
Like Tan Blademaster said: "tanking is stupid"

Damnit, we know that "tanking is stupid," but in some "elite" areas, it's needed.

Pwnd by a guineapig · Feb 11, 2007, 07:20 PM // 19:20

Eh thhis is the build I use when I wanna play as W/E when I do 5 man FoW/UW... I thinks its an ok build since it hasnt gotten me kicked and people know what im doing...

Attributes I have

Axe mastery 10
Earth Magic 12
Tactics 12 (3+1)

Stoneflesh Aura
Armor of earth
Obsidian flesh (Havent capped yet)(Im replacing it with Crictical chop Until I get Obby flesh)
Evirscate
"Watch yourself!"
Thrill of Victory
Healing Signet
Executioners strike

Im gonna try this build later today to see if it has any Dual hero/Solo farming things on Noob island in Kamadan.

erfweiss · Feb 14, 2007, 09:45 AM // 09:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pwnd by a guineapig

Eh thhis is the build I use when I wanna play as W/E when I do 5 man FoW/UW... I thinks its an ok build since it hasnt gotten me kicked and people know what im doing...

Attributes I have

Axe mastery 10
Earth Magic 12
Tactics 12 (3+1)

Stoneflesh Aura
Armor of earth
Obsidian flesh (Havent capped yet)(Im replacing it with Crictical chop Until I get Obby flesh)
Evirscate
"Watch yourself!"
Thrill of Victory
Healing Signet
Executioners strike

Im gonna try this build later today to see if it has any Dual hero/Solo farming things on Noob island in Kamadan.

Now, I'm assuming you're going to move critical chop in the spot previously occupied by Evisicrate? You can't have Obsidian Flesh on the bar, too. Two elites.

qvtkc · Feb 14, 2007, 12:14 PM // 12:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125

Wow.. Broad Head Arrow.. That's so scary..

Just wait for it to go away, or have one of your monks remove the damn thing. And I was referring to the guy's comment on Enchant Removal, which is not possible with Obsidian Flesh on, unless you're hit with Chilblains.

Yes I know, I'm sorry. It's just that every time someone says "Elementalists can tank better than warriors" I tend to remember something that happened in Eternal Grove... We had an ele who claimed to be able to "tank". Sure, he was invincible for the first part of the mission. Then the afflicted came, and he got pwnt by their rangers in no time.

Also there are other ways to disenchant without targeting directly with a spell. Order of Apostasy and Avatar of Grenth etc.

Well as said, tanking is kind of stupid, but needed/beneficial in a few (very few) areas. I don't know, but warriors and eles can use Obsidian Flesh efficiently, it depends on other things which profession is best for the occasion.

Dutch Masterr · Feb 15, 2007, 03:19 PM // 15:19

only 2 places to actually "tank" in this game now are The Deep and DoA.

w/e obsidian flesh tanks are in high demand in DoA...eles cant tank!

snapple · Mar 04, 2007, 01:34 AM // 01:34

Logan Staal agrees.

Pan Head · Mar 04, 2007, 05:48 PM // 17:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch Masterr

only 2 places to actually "tank" in this game now are The Deep and DoA.

w/e obsidian flesh tanks are in high demand in DoA...eles cant tank!

This is why i started this thread. DoA always wants this build. I started this thread to get some ideas for a good build. Did not know it was going to start a debate if is wa a good idea or not. Seems to me it must be a good idea or there would not be so many GP's wanting them.

Coloneh · Mar 04, 2007, 08:37 PM // 20:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas.knbk

Obsidian Flesh
Stoneflesh Aura
Armor of Earth
Kinetic Armor
Stone Daggers
Mystic Regeneration
Earth Attunement
Res Sig

The perfect OF tank

close, but not exactly.

Obsidian flesh
StoneFlesh Aura
Armor of Earth
Kinetic Armor
Aura Of restoration
Earth Attunment
Serpent's Quickness
Res Sig

constant OF is nice

Pwnd by a guineapig · Mar 10, 2007, 03:46 AM // 03:46

The build I use for when I flesh tank is

12 earth magic
10 tactics
rest in sword/axe/hammer master

:::NOTE this attrivutes are providing you ahve runes to help

:::

Obsidian flesh {E}
Stoneflesh Aura
Armor of Earth
Final thrust
Healing signet
Steelfang Slash
Galrath Slash
Sunspear rebirth Signet/Ressurect

So yeah... love using this build because i think it PWNS

Effigy · Mar 12, 2007, 05:44 PM // 17:44

Guineapig, I have no idea where you plan to use that build, but it misses the mark. Thomas's and Coloneh's are more on point.

On that note, I've seen some tanks bring Ward Against Foes to keep the mobs from breaking aggro before they get AoE'd to death. Something to consider anyway.

Michael Dennis · Mar 12, 2007, 06:09 PM // 18:09

all i can say is: dude, plz dont!

Effigy · Mar 13, 2007, 01:13 PM // 13:13

Please don't what?